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Amos 3:7 A Love of The Truth
The Influence of Kabbalah & Navigating Spiritual Deception Today in The Church
Can Kabbalistic mysticism and New Age ideas secretly infiltrate modern Christianity? Join us for a thought-provoking conversation with Deanne Loper, the author of "Kabbalah Secrets Christians Need to Know," as she uncovers her journey from the clutches of the occult to a transformative born-again Christian experience.
Alongside Tony and Joni Stahl, we peel back the layers of how influential figures like Helena Blavatsky and Alice Bailey have subtly embedded esoteric doctrines into Christian teachings. You'll gain a deeper understanding of the controversial Noahide laws and the importance of vigilance in discerning truth from deception.
We live in a time when false teachings are infiltrating Christian Theology at a rapid rate. This important book exposes one of the greatest threats to pure Biblical Christianity. Deanne uncovers the deception by giving a detailed description of what Kabbalah is and equips believers to recognize it in its morphed form of Christianity.
The evidence shows that the god of today’s Babylonian and kabbalistic Judaism is NOT the God of the Bible and that the current convergence of Christians coming under rabbinic authority will bring them not to the one true God of the Bible but to the subservience of the god of Kabbalah – Ein Sof – and to its hierarchy of gods.
DeAnne's book: https://www.amazon.com/Kabbalah-Secrets-Christians-Need-Know/dp/1095680005
In our exploration, we tackle the intriguing connections between Kabbalistic prophecies and biblical prophecies, delving into texts like Daniel, Ezekiel, and Isaiah. We shed light on historical false messiahs such as Simon Bar Kokhba and Shabbatai Zevi and their impact on Jewish history, all while examining a specific prophecy from the Zohar. Get ready to challenge your perceptions as we discuss how these mystical traditions align with Freemasonry's complex cosmology, the symbolism of the six-pointed star, and the profound implications of the Sephirot tree.
Our discussion doesn't stop there. We probe into the troubling blend of Kabbalistic mysticism with contemporary Christian movements, spotlighting notable figures like Jonathan Cahn and the influence of books like "The Return of the Kosher Pig." By tracing these occult teachings' subtle presence in mainstream Christianity, we stress the need for a rigorous return to biblical study and discernment. Don't miss this compelling episode that promises to arm you with the knowledge to navigate the spiritual complexities of our time.
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Kabbalah Secrets Exposed - Jewish Mysticism & The Tree of Life
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The Kabbalah & Satans Stragems (Occult Perversion)
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Welcome folks to the A Minute to Midnight show. My name's Tony and I'm coming to you from New Zealand, and this is brought to you by AMinuteToM to midnightcom. I have two people on the show with me today First time guest, deanne Loper, and my friend, joni Stahl. So, joni, it's great to be chatting to you today and I'll let you introduce Deanne.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks for having me on again, tony. I was really looking forward to this particular interview today with Deanne Loper, who is with us right now. So I'm going to go ahead and welcome you on as a guest to Minute to Midnight, deanne. So welcome to this interview on a Minute to Midnight.
Speaker 3:Thank, you, joni. Thank you so much and hello Tony. I appreciate you both having me on. It's an honor to be on with you tonight.
Speaker 1:And it's an honor to have you too, and it's going to be a subject today that I want to let people know straight away that both Joni and I are not anti-Semitic, so because we're both of Jewish heritage. So please bear that in mind when you hear this. We are certainly not anti-Jewish in any way, shape or form, and I'm sure Deanne's not either, so perhaps you'd like to give us a bit of a background, deanne.
Speaker 3:Thank you and yeah, I want to reiterate that no, this book is in no way meant to be anti-Semitic. It is just really an expose of the subject of Kabbalah and the reason I wrote it. Well, I'll back up just a bit. I was raised in church for about 12, first 12 years of my life. I grew up in church and I got away from the Lord and I went into the occult for about 11 years and I had a very profound born-again experience at the age of 24. And the Lord delivered me out of New Age, deep occultism, hinduism, reincarnation beliefs, yoga I mean, you name it, witchcraft, forms of witchcraft. I was doing that and, like I said, I had a profound born-again experience. And when I came to the Lord I just devoured the Word of God, because what I've always said is people who are into these experiences, they're searching for the true light. Jesus is called the true light and one of the counterfeit lights is Kabbalah, in fact the Zohar, the main book of Kabbalah. It means a book of splendor or a book of light.
Speaker 3:So for the first many years I'd say 15, 20 years I researched the New Age infiltration into the church and I began with New Age authors like Helena Blavatsky, alice Bailey, david Spangler, benjamin Creme some of the more well-known leaders in the New Age movement, and what I noticed was just about every book I ever read, those authors or leaders in the New Age would touch on Kabbalah. And I began to through that. You know, recognize, I was already recognizing terminology that was coming into the church, because what people like Alice Bailey said very forwardly that they were going to infiltrate Christianity and destroy it from within. So I could see the terminology. It started like that way. I could recognize it. And then, like I said, I noticed this stream of Kabbalah running through all these occult books. So that's when I started to begin the research into that part of it. That's why I wrote the book.
Speaker 1:Can you tell the listeners the name of the book?
Speaker 3:My book is called Kabbalah Secrets Christians Need to Know, and there's a subtitle An In-Depth Study of the Kosher Pig and the Gods of Jewish Mysticism.
Speaker 1:Great Joni. Have you got anything that you'd like to add in here?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was really excited to hear your first interview that you had on Steve and Jana's show, steven Yana's show, and the reason being is because I remember way back in the early 90s like 1990, 91, I was already studying this and it was right at that time and you know, of course we'll get into this later, but you know I was studying about the Kabbalah or Kabbalah depending how you want to say it and that was when George Bush Senior had signed the Noahide laws into, you know, laws of our nation and that just really kicked off a major study with me. And of course I have a really in-depth background of Freemasonry study. That was a 10-year launch and it was a very in-depth 10-year research which was very interesting. Because when you get to learn those words, like you were talking about, from Madame Blavatsky and Alice Bailey and their theosophic comments, beliefs and ideologies, you see them as a strong backbone to Freemasonry and all the Kabbalistic language is replete. It is completely soaked in even what I would call today a Zionist Christian rhetoric.
Speaker 1:I'll leave you two to most of the talking, but I just want to say here before I do that, how many times I've mentioned in videos the as above so below symbolism that we're seeing everywhere, infiltrating Christian circles and including that saying itself being in the message translation of the Lord's Prayer. And which come first the chicken or the egg? No one can be sure on the dates of either the Emerald Tablet or the Book of Zohar, but that comes straight out of both of those and that's right there, you know, smack bang in the middle of Bethel and a whole lot of other places as well at the moment, and I think the book of Zohar is going to be definitely a part of this conversation. So I just wanted to mention that to people. Be really, really careful as soon as you start seeing that. This is where it's all coming from, deanne, this is where it's all coming from.
Speaker 3:Deanne, yes, both of what you both said were just cue points for me to deepen my research. I came across the Noahide laws early in my research. It was shocking. Shocking. You know, while everybody was talking about um islam, here's these laws that were kind of much more hidden back then in the 90s, joni. I mean, they were hard to find. And when I found them I didn't even want to believe it, like I was looking at it online. But I said I've got to see this for myself and there's a little story here. I was looking for the actual original quote from the book of Sanhedrin out of the Babylonian Talmud and I couldn't find it online. And if I did, I didn't even know if I would trust it.
Speaker 3:And I was up doing the research one night at two or three o'clock in the morning and the Lord spoke to me. He said go to the university library because I'm telling this story, because some people still don't believe that these laws are actual laws or that they've actually been written or that they even exist in the Babylonian Talmud. And when the Lord spoke that to me, he said go to the university library. And I was just like. Of course I called the library. I have a state university that's close to me and that's where I get quite a few of my books from universities. I have to order some of them for the research because they're hard to get your hands on.
Speaker 3:The Babylonian Talmud is hard to. It's like 26 volumes. I go there, I called them and they did have a set and sure enough, I looked it up and there were the laws written right there in the Babylonian Talmud and, like you said, tony, the as above so below, I mean just so much of this New Age terminology was coming in. So I, like I said, I started to look more into Kabbalah itself because I just knew that there had to be something more to it. And hearing, like the connection, like you said, joni, with Freemasonry and I had read the quotes by Albert Pike that said Freemasonry is Kabbalah and Lucifer is the light of Kabbalah, and you can't really know Freemasonry or get to the level without that light of Lucifer. And Helena Blavatsky said the same thing that Lucifer. She said Lucifer is the harbinger of our light. So we have this stream Kabbalah is the false light and it's connected to Freemasonry and Theosophy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know it is. And the thing that we're dealing with is spiritual power and the lights that we're dealing with is spiritual power, and the lights that we're talking about are power and they are power. You know, of course, when you look at Kabbalistic, you know that light is satanic. Of course, theosophists are going to say, well, we don't believe in a literal Satan. But in the study of Kabbalism, you know, when I started doing it, I went straight to the roots, like when I first heard about it. Like Deanne I think we talked about this before is I'm okay, I came from a Jewish family. I have a strong Jewish background, really strong, and when I became a Christian, I mean, of course, I went through some kind of a Christian like an identity crisis. You know, until I really, I mean I was fully identifying with Jesus, but then there was still this Jewish part of me, but then that was all worked out and I don't want to make this about myself at all, but I'm just saying that when I got to the point where I absolutely was I'm a full born, full born again Christian and as I was going into studying it, I had to really wrestle, and I know that there had to be a wrestling with you, because you, of course I know that because you said that when you start really studying Kabbalism and you go to the roots of it, that you're going into the roots of ancient Babylonian mysteries. You know they're, they're it was a mystical Babylon because there was a full. You know I'm getting my words, I'm excited.
Speaker 2:I had a long day today, so you guys forgive me. Um, so I mean, wasn't there a wrestling with you where you're like, is this for real? Like, and you're knowing, as you're researching, you're like, but it is, you, you're. I mean, I got my hands on books that were from the real deal, you know, even secular, as well as doctors of our, you know, christian um faith, and they were bringing these things to life back in the day in the early 90s for me and I really had to wrestle with that. I mean, wasn't there a great wrestling with you to say is this for real?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, and it was even scary at times, because when you try to, when the Lord is showing you these things, you know you. First of all, you need to. I tell people look, there's been so much deception in the church. We can talk about the Schofield Bible and all of that, but most people are becoming aware of that. But the love of the truth is key and that's all I did is key and that's all I did. I just was.
Speaker 3:I started with a clean slate. I said, Lord, you know, I was raised in dispensational theology and my stepfather who raised me was a Freemason. And I said, you know, he's passed away. He was a great man, but that's what he believed. And I just started with a clean slate. I said, Lord, I don't care whatever I've heard. I just I set it all aside and I, Joni, talked about this. I mean, you can lay all the evidence out there as clear as day and they just won't discuss it. They just won't go there. We talked about the scripture. I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. And you know the well the powers that be have really done a good job of taking that scripture and almost using it as a psychological weapon in the church Because Christians are so terrified to even approach this subject because of that one scripture. But I say, look, there's nothing wrong with asking God questions, there's nothing wrong with seeking the truth. In fact we're encouraged to be Bereans and so.
Speaker 3:But yes, to answer your question, there were nights when I was just terrified. Or I would be reading the Bible and then God would just I mean the Holy Spirit would just illuminate a scripture to me, like Revelation 11, 8, their dead bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city which is called Sodom in Egypt. And I was just, I had never seen it before. I said, oh my, I said that's Jerusalem, because it says where our Lord was crucified. And then, if you keep reading in Revelation 17 and 18, mystery Babylon is always called the great city. So this was like one of the first things, the first truth that the Holy Spirit showed me.
Speaker 3:And then I would wrestle. I was like, oh Lord, this can't be, this can't be. It's got to be Rome, it's got to to be America, it's got to be this or that. But you know, as hard as that is to say, the bible confirms itself the great city is the great city. The great city is mystery Babylon, where our lord was crucified. So those were. I had a lot of really times of wrestling with the lord, with scriptures like that, and I would say just, Lord, you've got to confirm, and confirm again and again. So it was a process of time.
Speaker 1:I guess there's going to be people that will listen to this, that are going to not think that Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon, and I understand that. To me personally, I'm not totally sure whether it is or isn't. But aside from that, whether people think that Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon or not, just put that to one side and let's delve into some of the other aspects of this, because it is huge and, yeah, I think it'll be a real eye. Let's delve into some of the other aspects of this, because it is huge.
Speaker 2:And yeah, I think it's a real eye-opener for people. Well, I wanted to say that, you know, when it says that the two witnesses lie dead in the street for three days, it says it is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt and it's a connotation of the spiritual condition of what it will and is, even at this time now, has become. I mean, when you look at Israel right now that is overran by the LGBT community, know, we look at the gay pride marches, so we can even say that is Sodom, spiritually correct. And you know, when you say Egypt, well it's the spirit of Egypt, it's the spirit of Babylon. So I think that we can be as much as conclusive as possible to say that that is not mystery Babylon period, because there's a literal Babylon, there's a historical Babylon, there is a mystery Babylon, but that is not it. That has its own designation.
Speaker 1:So that's full of basically Freemasonic symbolism and all of that. So it's definitely in there, and there's all this other mysticism and stuff that's going on there. So, deanne, maybe we should jump into it a little bit. People might be wondering what this mysticism is.
Speaker 3:Yes, and when I say that I mean I just want to connect that to just going back, because you know, I've always viewed the Jewish people as the chosen of God. So I didn't mean it in a way that lumping all of Jewish people into that, just that spiritual connection, even with Israel, because it's just something that I've never heard, the spiritual connection of it and that system of mysticism underlies pretty much all nations and all governments. So just to clear that up, but I will. Okay, so let's move on here. One of the first. This again is why I wrote the book, or what really intrigued me to write the book.
Speaker 3:One of the first books that I got in my research was a book by, uh, rabbi joel david baxt, and it was it's on the secret doctrine of the guy on of vilna. And he says in this book this is the first time I read this prophecy from the zohar that there was an actual prophecy that talked about this timeline of when their Messiah would come in, and I'm talking about the Kabbalistic. According to the Kabbalium which they've got the date here as 1840 CE, which is common error, or AD 1840, which would have been the time around the Industrial Revolution, the gates of wisdom above, which is Kabbalah, together with the wellsprings of wisdom below, which is science, will be opened up and the world will prepare to usher in the seventh millennium. So, according to the Kabbalah and the Zohar this is actually from the Zohar I discovered that there was an actual prophecy in a timeline that they were operating on, and that really cued my interest into further research.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know something? It's really when you start studying Kabbalism it will take you on. It's like one thing after another. And I want to inject the Lord in this right now, because obviously this prophecy would even pretty much speak about the time that we're in right now. Right, because we're at the end of the 6000th year and really, if you're going to really get into you know prophetic times and seasons, that we're at the very end of the day of man, the last. Right, because the sixth day would be the day of man. So that would answer to what that prophecy is that you're speaking about and that seventh day that's coming, which is so interesting because I noticed that all those kabbalistic prophecies not all of them, but so many of those kabbalistic prophecies, not all of them, but so many of those Kabbalistic prophecies are actually very parallel to many of the prophecies that are spoken about, like in Daniel, in Ezekiel, a lot of them in Ezekiel, isaiah, no-transcript.
Speaker 3:Right, there's a book out Jewish Utopia and there may be some differences of opinions on this, but the kingdom of God according to Jesus Christ. Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within you. He said as he was standing before Pilate my kingdom is not of this world. Paul the apostle said that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. So one of the things that Jesus said to his disciples in Matthew 24, he said if they say the Christ is here or there or in the desert or the secret chambers, don't go, do not follow them.
Speaker 3:And so what I put out there to people is simply look, this utopian kingdom that they're trying to create. It is exactly what the Pharisees and the rulers at the time of Jesus were expecting him to do at that time, that they were expecting a political, military-type Messiah who would overthrow the Roman kingdom. And Jesus didn't do that. And you know when the Lord returns.
Speaker 3:I don't think that any of us really understand how that's going to happen, but they're trying to bring forth their Messiah, and they are. We can see that through this. They're very, very dedicated and serious about it. How would we know him if he told us don't go, because he said, as the lightning flashes forth from the east to the west, that's how the Son of man shall come. And so we just need to be very careful when they're talking about prophecy and you know, much of prophecy has been fulfilled and there are still things that are yet to be fulfilled but what I tell everybody is really test, you know, test, test the Yeshua test, the Jesus test the things that they're presenting to you according to the doctrine of the word of God.
Speaker 1:So the Messiah that these Kabbalistic Jews are looking for is what we're going to believe to be. Well, believe will be the antichrist. Is that how you see it?
Speaker 3:Yes, I mean it could be, mean it could be, it could be the I was just talking to a friend about this today. It could be the antichrist or it could be a antichrist, um, because I'm sure, like you, joni, are, are familiar that jewish history has a line of false messiahs that have come forth. You know we've had. There was simon bar hawkba, after the destruction or right around the destruction of the temple uh, who claimed to be a messiah. There was shabbatized v and he had a following of literally, I think, millions literally, I think millions of Europeans and Muslims. In the time that he claimed to be the Messiah, he had a large following and after that it was Jacob Frank, and this was all centered around these same Kabbalistic doctrines. So I mean, it's not for me to say that it could be the Antichrist, but definitely a false Messiah.
Speaker 2:You know, when you're encouraging people to, you know, make sure they have the right Jesus, make sure they have the right spirit, the right gospel.
Speaker 2:Paul the Apostle was very clear with us in 2 Corinthians, 11, verse 4, where he says you know that in verse 4, it reads I don't have it before me, I mean I can turn to it right now to say it perfectly, but he talks about let me just get there, because I, oh here it is 11, verse 4, he says it says for if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit which ye have not received, or another gospel which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. And in verses 13, 14, and 15 of the same chapter it says but such are false apostles, deceitful workers transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. And we need to talk about Metatron and I want you to talk about Metatron after this Angel of light. And we need to talk about Metatron and I want you to talk about Metatron after this. Therefore, it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as ministers of righteous news and shall be according to their works.
Speaker 2:And when I read this now with the information, I'm thinking yes, of course there can be all kinds of false doctrine teachers. We know that's prolific right now. We know that there's millions of people all saying thus saith the Lord, and this is what the Lord showed me. They're getting a false light. But Paul is very significantly. This is during a Jewish, rich Jewish culture. Of course, corinth was Greek, but he's talking about apostles, deceitful workers, false apostles, apostles, deceitful workers, false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming them into angels of light. And you know, I think a lot of people have not heard about who metatron is. And this is so important because what tony brought up about? An antichrist or the antichrist, or their version of messiah mashiach? Um, why don't you let everybody that's listening because I love all of your information, I'm enjoying this so much so let everybody know who metatron is to the kabbalists and their prophetic future expectation.
Speaker 3:Okay, sure, metatron is a figure that, again, I ran across periodically in my research on the New Age movement. At that time I read it and then I just didn't really understand what a central role that he has in Kabbalah. So, as I just dug more into that part of my research, what I'll do is I'll start with if you read the back description on the back cover of my book, I say that if you follow this mystical Judaism again we're talking about the mystical Kabbalistic Judaism it is going to take you not to the God of the Bible, but another God. So where I started was with the formation or the emanation of the Sephirot tree, and above that Sephirot tree, which I discuss in my book, there's an unknowable and effable God called Ensof. And how the Kabbalistic creation story goes is that he created Keter, is also Elohim, which is the god of our bible and then from Keter come down these nine emanations or these spheres. So you've got all the way down to in the center of the. The sephiroth tree is the what they call metatron's cube, and this is where metatron stands, at the center of this sephiroth tree in the kabbalistic universe. Rabbi backs says of metatron that he stands in the center of the universe with the name of Israel engraved on his forehead.
Speaker 3:Okay, mystical rabbis or even occultists have claimed to see him as they meditate on the Kabbalistic 72 names of God. It's interesting that they're supposedly in Kabbalah. I think it's 72 mystical names of God. Well, Metatron also has 72 different names and in my I taught, I think I quote gershom sholem says that these, all these names are by the kabbalists, are are intermingled, these sacred names of god and these different names of metatron. So as they ascend, it's metatron that they encounter on the throne, seated in this cube or in his chariot.
Speaker 3:And Metatron is considered the little Yahweh in the third book of Enoch and some of these other mystical writings. It's called Merkaba mysticism or chariot mysticism, and so I mean I understand mysticism and so I mean I understand. I understand how you know people can be deceived in the occult, but what? Another reason that really prompted me to write my book is because I had never seen this kind of doctrine come so boldly and so blatantly into the church. And like I talk about this book, the Return of the Kosher Pig and it's not that I want to pick on Mr Shapira, but he actually does list he has Metatron in his book the Return of the Kosher Pig as one of the names of Messiah, the Return of the Kosher Pig as one of the names of Messiah. But this comes again. This comes from Kabbalistic mystical writings, and he quotes a lot of these in his book.
Speaker 2:And so that to me is when the church is at that level and you have so many Christians following these teachings, that's a serious, serious place for the church to be today. You know, I wanted to bring something up about the Sephirot tree and the Sephirot tree. I did a lot of research in that. That was a long time ago and I I'm going to try to remember as much as I can because my research was like, course, in Freemasonry and absolutely throughout entire Freemasonry, they constantly have the word Kabbalah. You know the Kabbal that were from the Sanhedrin and that were only and absolutely given like to the third master masons. They were given a special book from the Kabbalah and I read some of the things in there and it was so evil. But one of the things you know we're talking about how things bleed into the Christian verbiage, so to speak, and one of the things that are part of the Sephirot tree, which is Jacob's ladder, it's an ascendancy and there's like I think, what is it? 22 paths. There's like I think, what is it? 22 paths? There's like 22 paths, you basically this metatron, you have to ask him for degrees, you have to, you know, go by degrees up this ladder where you basically become deified. And but the word shekinah I mean, how often do we hear christians go oh, that's the Shekinah glory, like you know, when they're reading in the Old Testament, and you know the part where Solomon, he gets finished building. You know he has the temple built, and when it was all completely done, all the singers were done singing. It said that this talked about the light coming in and everything. And I remember all my life being taught oh well, that's the Shekinah glory. Well, I did, I just bought it, that it was like okay, well, it's obviously this, this glory of God called the Shekinah, and so you hear that word being said all the time. And so, if you don't mind me reading this little part in your book because it's so good, it is just short the word Shekinah is not found in the Bible. These are your words In Kabbalah Shekinah is the final Sephirot to emanate from the Sephirot tree.
Speaker 2:She is the female counterpart of Ainsaf and the divine presence of god in the earth. She is the daughter conceived in the sacred marriage of hyros gamos. She is the gateway of man's ascension to knowledge, the bride and queen of teferet. She is the mother who is one with the children of israel. But something went wrong with this cosmic drama. There is a crisis, a shattering of God's dream, in which man is not left to work and pick up the pieces, and so, basically, there's a male and a female counterpart side, as you were showing your book. I hope everybody gets this book because this is an excellent work that you did. And so why don't you go ahead and explain the male, female androgynous? Because we can look at what is that two horn, uh, you know uh thank you baphomet.
Speaker 2:Who's androgynous right? He has breasts, but he's male, so this all comes from that. So please explain the duality and male female of sephiroth sure, okay.
Speaker 3:So when, uh when, in soft now he's not actually one of the spheres say that God was filling the universe, but he had to contract himself into a point of light and from there he emanated from himself this catcher, which is, um, again, elohim. So, right there, that goes against the book of genesis, because in genesis elohim is the creator, but Keter or Elohim was androgynous, according to the Kabbalah. And I've got plenty, I've got, I think I've got 241 footnotes in the book. So it's, you know, it's not just my words, it's really just researching and documenting. So Keter is androgynous male and female.
Speaker 1:Can you spell that, keter, so people can know?
Speaker 3:Sure K-E-T-E-R.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 3:And that means supreme crown, also Elohim. You'll see different forms of this Kabbalah Sephirot tree, see different forms of this Kabbalah Sephirot tree. So from Keter emanates Chokmah and Binah. Now Chokmah is the male pillar. There's three pillars and you can relate this even to the pillars of Freemasonry. So you've got the male side and from Keter comes Chokmah, which stands for wisdom. And then the female is Bina. And actually in Kabbalah, in the Return of the Kosher Pig Book, bina is related to Jesus or Yeshua, even though it's a female characteristic of this androgynous God.
Speaker 3:And then the hieros gamos is where these two entities and I'd stress this in the book, these spheres are actual living entities. They're crowns, they're probably fallen angelic beings, because there's angels standing at each one of these gateways. And in Kabbalah, kabbalah teaches that there's seven heavens instead of three. So it really is a whole different cosmology. Creation, even redemption, is completely different from the biblical view. So Hockman and Bina come together in sexual union that's called heros gamos, and then they have this union and from this sexual union comes the next sephiroth, the next two, and then they have sex all the way down. I mean it gets pretty graphic, but like the, and Rabbi Baxter gets pretty clear and graphic in his book.
Speaker 3:But the last sphere, all these spheres, are in the spirit world, but the bottom one, the last one, is Malkut and that kingdom, and that's, that's our planet earth. That's the only sphere that's not supposedly located. Well, it's not, it's not located in the spirit world and that's where you have your shakina. And there's an interesting um quote in my book from the Zohar it's actually quoted from Gershom Scholem's book where, at that, when, when Ensau emanated these spheres, the light which, by the way, is very interesting, that's the Vav, the V-A-V, the, the mystical Hebrew alphabet, comes into play here in a big part of Kabbalah.
Speaker 3:So when the Vav, or the light that went into these spheres, was so bright that these spheres shattered and so part of God, which would be the Shekinah, fell into the pit or the abyss, and she is waiting to come out of the abyss. She is waiting to come out of the abyss. And so you know, all I can do is compare, we can compare these things to parts of the book of Revelation and just go wow you know, I want to bring something up which is really interesting, because you talked about the seven gates of heaven and their seven doors.
Speaker 2:And you know, isn't it interesting how people always like, oh, I'm in seventh heaven, like it's even braided into you know, common everyday language and people do not realize what they're saying. And, interestingly, many years ago, when I was researching and I was all over the place because I was studying Freemasonry, when you study Freemasonry you think you're just going to study one thing like oh, this is who they are, this is what they believe, this is what they do. No way, I mean, it could take a lifetime of study and you could have like, like, for instance, like at the fifth degree, there's like five or 10 other 15 maybe, I think, other degrees that come out of the fifth degree, and then there's, you know, different. You know like, uh, french freemasonry with 164 degrees, and you know there's illuminous degrees and everything and um, but I want to say something about that were so deep in Freemasonry that people would be mind blown.
Speaker 2:And they also get into heavy sexual, graphic things, just like Kabbalism, which is tied to it, which is so pornographic. There's no way that I would even think to mention a word here. But also too, there is a heavy witchcraft arm of Freemasonry which they would say well, we don't practice witchcraft, but but they, they do get into heavy stuff. That is nothing less than witchcraft. And something I learned is in black magic and heavy black magic there is a I don't know if you heard about it or not, it's called the Necromonicron. Have you heard of that?
Speaker 3:I have heard of it. I haven't really looked into it. I've heard of it.
Speaker 2:Well, to witchcraft communities that practice that, that want really high level power. The research that I did on that is that there are 13 levels of heaven and there are 13 gates, which is interesting because everything lines up with that Kabbalistic Sephirot tree. And so they believe that there are 13 gates, which they don't call heaven, they call hell, but it goes upwards, of course, and that every door, every gate that you go through, you have to engage a specific fallen angel and you have to say certain things and you have to do what is required of you. But it becomes more treacherous as you get higher and higher and higher and, according to the research I did, if anybody even gets to the 13th door, that they are actually killed by Satan himself, that they are actually killed by Satan himself. So you know, when you're dealing with the Sephirot tree, you're dealing with and you would know this better than me because you have fresh insight is that there are fallen angels that you have to engage to ascend that ladder. Is that correct?
Speaker 3:Yes, I do touch on this in the book and yeah, it's interesting to me because when I was doing like the New Apostolic Reformation and that's just one way you know that New Age or contemplative mysticism is coming into the church or contemplative mysticism is coming into the church came across Richard I think it was Richard Foster who is a big. He's a big proponent of contemplative mysticism, but in his book okay, so whether you're dealing with you know straight up witchcraft like what you're talking about, or Kabbalahah, or something coming into the church that seems just so innocent, like contemplative prayer. He even had warnings in his books when you go into these altered states of consciousness, through this contemplative type prayer that you and I were discussing yesterday, joni, there you're going to encounter demonic spirits, you're going to encounter fallen angels, menacing angels, and in Kabbalah, as you go through these doorways, to get through the doorways you have to have certain passwords. You know you have to have certain codes, mystical names, and you know the rabbis talk about, when you're going through these different levels, that you get this seal. You get the seal of insaf on your forehead. I mean, i've've got these. I put some of them in my book, these quotes, and so it's like amazing, because you know some, someone had said to me the other day well, you know what's? What is the mark of the beast? Well, I can't tell you. I don't say this in my book, but what I say is they're admitting that they're getting sealed in the spirit, they're getting stamped with these mystical names, this Aleph Tav.
Speaker 3:You know I talk about the Zohar's account of creation and that was like that just blew me away. When I got this straight out of the Zohar again, I had to go to the university to read it and make sure it was true. So I got a copy of the Zohar and in the Zohar's account of creation, the letters, the mystical letters of the alphabet, go up before their god Ensoph, one at a time and they go from reverse order order. And the Tav, being the last letter of the alphabet, goes up first and says you know, this is when Ensoph is supposedly creating the world. And the Tav says you know, use me. Use me to create the world, since I am engraved upon your seal and I'm the last letter in the word truth. And so the insaf says to this letter tav, you are worthy and deserving to for me to use in the creation of the world, but you are destined to serve as a mark on the foreheads of the faithful ones who keep the law, foreheads of the faithful ones who keep the law from olive to top, from beginning to end. And so when when I found that, when I read that, it was like a light went on with me. That really kabbalah.
Speaker 3:It deals with a lot of witchcraft and mysticism, but according to Paul, one of the highest forms of sorcery or bewitchment is trying to attain righteousness with God through the keeping of the law. In Galatians, paul says who has bewitched you? Oh foolish Galatians. Having begun in the spirit, are you now made perfect by the law?
Speaker 3:And so I touch on this a lot in my book and I think that that's important because for people to understand where this mysticism is really heading, at least in the kabbalah stream, is it's called takun, takun olam, and when those spheres shattered, man was left to pick up the pieces, and we can fix the world through our good works. And just like this account of creation in the, zohar says the mark of righteousness will be the letter Tav, or the Aleph and the Tav, the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet, but it says those who keep the law from beginning to end, and so that's where I connected it with the Noahide laws. And so it's the Noahide laws for the Gentiles, the 613 commandments for the Jewish people, and if they really believe that, if we're all doing our part and keeping the law, then their messiah will return.
Speaker 2:I want to jump back, springboard back over to where you just ended, um, when we were talking about the seven doors, right, the seven levels of heaven and the seven doors. And you know, jesus says verily, verily, I say unto you, that's uh, john 10, verse 1 he that entereth, not by the the door, into the sheepfold but climbeth up some other way, the same as a thief and a robber. And I want to say something about that right now, because that sephiroth tree is absolutely they look at it like that is the tree of life, that is the return, man's gaining his own righteousness, for the return to the garden. But when jesus says he that entereth, not by the door, into the sheepfold but climbeth up some other way, the same as a thief and a robber, well jesus also says in that same chapter satan comes but for, only, only but for to steal, kill and to destroy. So we know that he is a robber.
Speaker 2:And another thing too is, um, you know, we always want to look at revelation, chapter 2, 9, 9, and 3, 9, where he calls these people out as the liars, but he also calls them their apostles liars because they had their own sect of apostleship. And in let me see here, chapter 8, jesus says he says why do you not understand my speech? Even because you cannot hear my word. You are of your father, the devil, and the less of your father he will do, for he was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speak of a lie, he speak of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it. And then he says over here, um, that, um, they were chiding him about things. But I'm just going to go straight to verse 55 of chapter 10. He says ye, yet ye have not known him, but I know him, meaning god, his father. If I should say I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you, but I know him, and keep the saying.
Speaker 2:I believe that at 70 ad and I think we might have even talked about this before because we've talked a couple times on the phone, but that in 70 ad, when jerusalem was sacked, um, that all the the Jews were scattered, right, so there was all the scattering of the Jews, but that did not people don't realize, but that did not end the Pharisee movement, they just spread out. And so I think what Jesus was saying here. I could be completely wrong, but when he's talking about him being the door and you know, in Kabbalistic Judaism they're saying there's seven doors that you go through of ascendancy because really you're working your own self, your own way, all the way up to being really your own god. You know, and getting back to, and I want you to bring up because I know we don't have a lot of time but, um, adam kadam, or that was something I wanted to talk about, you to bring up, because it has to do also with in in soft, and so I know who you're, what I'm, I know you know who I mean.
Speaker 2:Uh, about adam kadmon, the first emanation or creation of insoth. So why don't you talk a little bit about him? Because I think it's important to talk about, because we it's so shifty, you know how paul the apostle talks, speaks about the first and the last man, adam, in 1 Corinthians 15. And it's so to me convenient that they came up with their first and last man, adam. So have at it, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, yes, I can't remember what page it is on in my book, but I show the Sephirot tree in the form of the four letters stacked on top of each other the Yod, he, vav, he. So there are actually two. There's two atoms in the cosmology of kabbalah. The first atom that emanated from in soft is adam kadmon, and you could say that he's also ketter, the one at the top of the sephirot tree. And he is the one at the at the first shattering of of the Sephirot tree, when the spheres supposedly could not hold all the light. He is the one who put the universe back together. And again, there's so much symbolism in here with, like, the mark and the forehead you know Metatron has Israel engraved on his forehead. Well, adam Kadmon, who is really most likely Metatron? There's so many different views here, but through lights, through lights coming from his forehead makes me think of the you know, avengers movies or something. I think they get a lot of their ideas from here. He, from lights emanating from his forehead, he repaired the worlds and remade the spheres. And then he creates Adam, the first man in the garden. Man in the garden and adam the man. His sin, according to kabbalah, is not that he disobeyed god by eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but he separated the tree of knowledge of good and evil from the tree of life prematurely. And so, like rabbi uh, joel david baxt actually says that, um, through technology and the resurrection of the sacred serpent you know, and leviathan, and I'll just say that the, the gematria or the, which is numerology, the gematria of the sacred serpent is equal to Mashiach or Messiah in Kabbalah. So this sacred serpent is supposed to resurrect from the dust and the ashes of the fall and through technology, from the dust and the ashes of the fall and through technology, he will help humanity restore this tree of knowledge.
Speaker 3:But as far as Adam Kadmon, one of the last things I want to say is I think it's on page 99 of my book there's two six-pointed stars. That's another way of uh expressing the sephirot tree. So what you see in that, again, it's through knowledge. Salvation, redemption comes through knowledge and good works, and earthly man is a divine reflection, according to kabbalah, is a divine reflection of this adam kadmon in the sephiroth tree. And um, in fact, I've got one quote here that, if I could find it real quick, it just kind of blew me away. Let me see. Yes, this is from um sl mcgregor mathers, who translated um several books of kabbalah, and he says this.
Speaker 3:So if when you're looking at that image on page 99 of my book, the, the stacked um six-pointed stars, or shield, mag, mag and David they call it in Judaism which was not the shield of David, by the way, it can't be found in the scriptures.
Speaker 3:Mcgregor Mather says this is the equilibrium of balance, man's realization of his divine constitution through comprehension of the universal hexad. The zohar states that man is a microcosm, a copy or a paradigm of the universe. He is, in his constitution, a reflection of the divine nature. And then it goes in. It talks about the base of the triangle and the apex forms the perfect figure of the man. And man begins to conform himself to the image of the holy one symbolized by the hexagon. And so there again the six-pointed star, which is Metatron's cube, which is the hexagon. That was all part of my early research, but the more I delved into this I mean it just runs deeper and deeper. There's really Kabbalah is like it's an endless maze of knowledge, knowledge, and there's so much more that I I could have put in that book, but you know you have to come to a stopping point at some time there's some interesting too.
Speaker 1:That, um, it's made up. The star is made up of two triangles, one pointing up and one pointing down, which is that, as above so below thing. Again for those listeners that are going well, what has this got to do with us? Because that's just some little small sect over in Israel, it's this Kabbalah thing. You know, what has it got to do with us? I think it's probably important that we actually go to point to people how this is, that infiltrated into Christianity in a big way. That's probably the way we need to really end you know, the last part of the show, I think, which obviously is going to be longer than normal to really show people how and why it's important for Christians to know this.
Speaker 3:Okay, in my book I did kind of a critique of the return of the kosher pig and I had never heard of Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira. He got my attention simply because he said that Christianity is Edom and that when Yeshua comes back he is going to destroy Christianity as an entity and the only Christians that will be left are those who will assist in building this kingdom of God on earth in Israel and who will help rebuild the temple. And he talks about the animal sacrifices being instituted. He is just one. I've written a paper on my website which we can talk about at the end of the program, which I wasn't able to bring all that into the book. But there are many. I mean, there are many ministers and ministries out there subtly bringing in Kabbalah and I really don't like to mention names. But I'm going to talk about one right now. Well, bill Cloud is one, bill Cloud. He talks about the Aleph and the Tav being the mark, being the mark of righteousness. You know, the Bible says that we, as Christians, believers in Jesus Christ, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption. That's our down payment, that's our seal and it's a circumcision of the heart Paul talks about. But so, like you know, know, bill cloud, he talks about this olive tov, he talks about this force of god. He he calls it the memra and if you look into that more, the memra m-e-m-r-a that's metatron. And so I listen to these people and I'm like this is coming in from all directions. Jonathan Cahn. Jonathan Cahn has a new book that is coming out in September and it's called the Oracle. Now, in my book I talk about the Harbinger. I knew enough about Kabbalah to know that when Jonathan Cahn's first book came out the Harbinger I think it was in 2011,. I knew it was Kabbalah to know that when Jonathan Kahn's first book came out the Harbinger I think it was in 2011 I knew it was Kabbalah, but I didn't know. I don't think I would have recognized what was in this book had I not done the research.
Speaker 3:Helena Blavatsky says that Lucifer is the harbinger of light, and there's a lot of symbolism. I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for this, but I have to talk about it. There's a lot of symbolism on the front covers of Jonathan Cahn's book, including Freemasonry, and the light of Freemasonry, we know, is Lucifer. You have Helena Blavatsky saying that Lucifer is the harbinger of light. In my book I discuss how the rabbis and this concept is hundreds, if not thousands, of years old because it comes right from the Zohar the rabbis say that the global dissemination, the global spread of Kabbalah is the harbinger. It's the harbinger of Elijah. Now, they're not talking about the same Elijah that we're talking about, because if you look and if you read in my book, this Elijah, this dead Elijah, he's a familiar spirit. He comes to these rabbis and they go into this spirit realm and they go into these academies and Elijah gives them secrets. But you can read about it in the book that Elijah blowing the Messiah's horn, blowing the horn of the shofar, is the harbinger. Okay, and this is the necessary step to actually initiate the masses into Kabbalah. That's what they believe is the necessary step before their Messiah comes.
Speaker 3:There was a video, a YouTube video out circling it's still on YouTube of Jonathan Kahn speaking. It's called the Zohar speaks and he is telling the people he's talking about Gulgotha and he's telling them that that's Golgotha, the skull Hill where Jesus Christ was crucified. That's not, that is not Golgotha. Gulgotha, uh, golgotha, sorry, gulgotha, golgotha, sorry. Golgotha is actually that top part of the Sephirot tree. On page 99 of my book. It's the Arik on Pin and that's called the long face and it's it's described in detail in the zohar. That's the long face of god, metatron. In the other, in the bottom cube, is the short face. He's the lesser yahweh. So you have these three spheres at the top that make up the gulgalta, and the zohar talks about this dude ripping down on myriads of worlds and jonathan khan goes into this in this video and he he says the gulgalta is the same as golgotha and that we need to listen to the rabbis.
Speaker 3:Jonathan Cahn has a book of mysteries. There is an actual book of mysteries that falls under the umbrella of Kabbalah, and had I not done the research I was sharing with Joni, you know, after I finished my book, I went and got the Harbinger just to check it out, because I never did read it. And when I opened it up, the Aleph and the Tav, which the Zohar says is the mark of the righteous, is imprinted on the Table of Contents page and it's imprinted in very light ink at the top of every chapter page. And this book, the Harbinger, is done as a story. It sounds real good because it's talking about coming, judgments and repentance, but encoded in this book. There's nine seals and this person has to decode these seals and the first seal is the vav and I. I don't have time to go into it right now, but the description of what's on this seal is exactly as the vav, the pillar of light, that's the middle pillar, that emanates from nsof. It comes down as a ray of light and then splits and it forms the v and it breaks through the wall. And I mean just the similarities are are really amazing. So that's just one that I. You know that, tony, to answer your question.
Speaker 3:It's a long explanation, but this kabbalah is coming in.
Speaker 3:It's coming in through the door of the New Apostolic Reformation.
Speaker 3:It's coming into the door through the emergent churches, like you and I talked about Joni, through contemplative mysticism, the purpose-driven movement, movement, that tree on the front of rick warren's purpose-driven book, that is the kabbalistic tree with the roots penetrating the ground, that shows the mysteries.
Speaker 3:And there's a very good book, a very good book, written by uh roger oakland called faith undone, and he does an excellent job of tracing rick warren's um mentors and ties all the way back to men like martin buber, and martin buber is well known in kabbalah, I mean gershom sholem writes about martin buber and siren kirk, soren kirkgaard, and these are the men that formed and shaped even Rick Warren's thinking, and he has quoted in his purpose-driven book at least 12 or 13 mystics, spiritualists and occultists. And this is the process that Alice Bailey called overlap. This is how they would get it. I mean, they boldly said they were going to do this in the church and they've done it through the process of overlap, introducing occult, new Age Kabbalistic authors into so-called Christian books. So that's why we need to be concerned and educate ourselves.
Speaker 2:Well, that was an excellent answer and you know, I mean we can go on because you know there's other things that we can bring out, but I think you covered it really well by naming, like, the Emergent Church, the NAR, new Apostolic Reformation, and even the return to Rome, which is something I so wanted to get into and maybe we can come back another time and discuss about. You know what Rome's part is, and the Nostra Aetate, the signing of the Nostra Aetate back in 1962, where the Jewish, uh, you know uh, kabbalist, uh, rabbis, uh, you know, chabad, lubavitchers well, they signed a document with Rome, like becoming one with them. And I'm saying it like I'm really tired today because I've been working all day long and my mind is kind of mush right now. But you know, rome has to be brought into this discussion at some point because it cannot be left out, because it is one of the major cogs of this machinery and right now there's all the machines that are running right now, when before it was maybe one or two machines running back in the 50s and 60s and so on. But right now it's like satan has all these different machines kicked up and they're all running right now and it's very important to tie in um the kabbalistic mystical movement in all of these you know, like you said, emergent church, new apostolic reformation, bethel and even a recent guest that tony had on which was purporting um a full born again.
Speaker 2:You know she didn't ever say a born again experience I noticed, but it was a come to Christ. Everything was a cultic new age, flowing reincarnation, and she was very big into reincarnation and she was talking about the over soul and that was totally from Alice Bailey and her over soul and you start out with one soul but then you grow into becoming one entire entity, soul of all humanity, and that's complete, total Kabbalism. And this one woman has over 100,000 followers and when you look at the comments, they're like this is so powerful, I never knew this, this is wonderful. So you know. Back're like this is so powerful, I never knew this, this is wonderful. So you know. Back to what you said is study your Bibles. But right now, so many people are not going to do that because they want to fast track it. Ok, they want to fast track, they want power, they want emanation, they want all that.
Speaker 2:And one thing I just want to add is I was thinking about something this morning when I was in devotion and it popped into my head and it had to be the Lord because it had nothing to do with what I was reading. And yet, obviously the Lord knew that I would be here this moment with you and Tony, and I was thinking about how how do you get to all the masses right now that are stampeding to this false light of Satan? Because, bottom line, it is the synagogue of Satan and this is who. And we got to come back and talk about it later. But the Lord brought something to my mind. He brought into my mind Herod, the Tetrarch.
Speaker 2:During Jesus's trial, jesus was sent to Herod and we know that Herod. It said of him that he was happy, like he was excited to see Jesus, because he had heard about all these different miracles that he was doing and he had hoped to see some miracle to be done by Jesus. But Jesus never answered them. And when I heard that in my mind, I I knew the Holy spirit was speaking in my spirit and he said to me and I'm not saying he gave me word for word, he gave me it like this understanding, like I can see it in my, and he gave me the spirit of understanding, the spirit of wisdom and insight that I could hear him in like, if I may put words on it, it was that he was saying to me Herod represents modern day Christianity.
Speaker 2:See, they're excited to hear about Jesus, they want to see Jesus, but they only want to see Jesus if they can get something from him, if he can perform some some powerful miracle. But Jesus didn't speak to him. And so obviously we know Herod and his men of war began, they set Jesus at not and began to mock him. And the Lord showed me that when see the people that have never, ever really met the risen Lord, but they just want something from the Lord, they want to get something from him, they want displays of power. That's why they're going to get this false Metatron figure, an Antichrist, the Antichrist, whoever you want, that Kabbalistic man, you know that, adam Kadmon, you know ultimate man, and isn't that what Satan is bringing about? I mean, that is his masterpiece. The Antichrist is Satan's masterpiece. That is his masterpiece.
Speaker 1:The Antichrist is Satan's masterpiece the deification of man. So, Deanne, what have you got? You know anything that fits in with this that we should really get across to our people that are listening before we close up, and once again, too, you must tell people the name of your book and where they can get it as well, and your website okay, um, well, yes, I I just agree with you, joni.
Speaker 3:Um, I was reading this morning myself, and in second corinthians 11, where paul says I fear that your minds may be corrupted by the craftiness of the serpent, from the simplicity of Jesus Christ. So just my final word would be to say, yes, we have a real enemy and our enemy is not flesh and blood, but we need to educate ourselves and we need. I'm just, you know, I am a simple word and simple faith, christian really. And if you continue reading that chapter, it's amazing because Paul is going to tell you all the things he went through. I think at four times he was beaten with stripes and I mean the persecution.
Speaker 3:Persecution comes with Christianity. So what you're saying, joni, I agree with that. We've got to get back to the simple gospel, the simplicity of Jesus and the word, and expect trials and tribulations and persecution. And so, as far as the book, my book Kabbalah Secrets Christians Need to Know, is available on Amazon or you can access it from my website, which I do have a website. There's not a whole lot on there yet because I've been busy, but the website is kabalasecretschristiansneedtoknowcom, same title as the book.
Speaker 1:Awesome, yeah, so it's been a really fascinating discussion and obviously there's a lot more that we could have covered, but hopefully that's given people a bit of a background into at least the importance of knowing where this is going, and no doubt at some point we'll have to come back and bring some more information out on this and how it ties in with today. But I want to thank you, both Joni and Deanne, for being on the A Minute to Midnight show today in this discussion, and it's been really, really great having you.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, it was my pleasure being on again, and especially to be, you know, because really I was just happy to be here because I wanted to hear everything that Deanne wanted to share. So definitely that was fantastic, really good, excellent information and research, deanne.
Speaker 3:Well, thank you, joni, I appreciate you. And Tony, thank you so much for having me on your program. Again, it was an honor to be on with you. God bless you.
Speaker 1:And no doubt it won't be the last time. So God bless you and both of you. It's been awesome having you.
Speaker 3:All right, good night, bye-bye.
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