Prophecy Update: Zechariah 12:3 & Jerusalem A Burdensome Stone

Embark on an insightful journey through the intricate web of Middle Eastern politico-religious dynamics with guest Olivier Melnick from Shalom and Messiah Ministries. This episode promises to illuminate the pressing issues at the heart of the Iran-Israel conflict, examining the alarming recent attacks within the context of scriptural prophecy and geopolitical alliances. We navigate the delicate complexities of anti-Semitism's disturbing normalization on college campuses, highlighting the shadowy line between ignorance and sinister intention, and underscore the genuine risks faced by Jewish faculty and students amidst this growing tide of intolerance.

The cultural emblem of the Keffiyeh is unwrapped, revealing its deep political resonance and the charged mantra "from the river to the sea," as we grapple with the contentious Palestinian identity and the geographic conundrums that define the region. Olivier Malmick offers a profound understanding of the international hostage crisis, scrutinizing Western backing of groups like Hamas and spotlighting the political tightrope at the International Criminal Court. Our dialogue addresses the pervasive media biases and the echoing calls for a diplomatic, rather than a militaristic, resolution to the historical strife between Israel and its neighbors.

As we draw the curtains on this episode, we reflect on the prophetic and contemporary significance of Israel, connecting the dots between ancient predictions and the shifting global stance towards the Jewish state. We ponder the legacy of innovation and historical land claims within Jerusalem, setting the stage for a deeper appreciation of the prophetic return of Jesus and the spiritual odyssey that intertwines with the enduring hope of Zion. Join us as we offer not just a conversation but a prayerful meditation on the future of a region that continues to shape the destiny of nations and the faith of many.

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Chapters

• 0:38 Iran-Israel Conflict Analysis
• 15:43 Normalization of Anti-Semitism on Campuses
• 21:48 Campus Controversy
• 31:52 Keffiyeh, Israel, and Political Manipulation
• 48:31 International Hostage Crisis and Political Tensions
• 58:08 Discussion on Israel and Palestine
• 1:07:58 Hope of Zion

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:38

Thank you. I'm going to ask Olivier to open us in a word of prayer.

Speaker 2: 0:43

Lord, thank you for giving us an opportunity to live for such a time as this. Lord, we have so much that we can do for your kingdom. We have so much that we can do to make a difference. So, lord, guide us, help us, help us understand your word, help us understand the current events. And, lord, thank you for dying for us. We know the end of the story. We just want to finish strong in Yeshua's name. We pray Amen.

Speaker 1: 1:11

Okay, well, this is Olivier Malmick with Shalom and Messiah Ministries. It's a new ministry that he started recently and you can. What is the website? Shalom and Messiah shalomandmessiahcom. And if you want to help contribute and he talked a little bit about it at the end of the first hour if you want to go watch that video and again on YouTube, like subscribe and that type of thing, and I will say, we're going to open comments and chat and that type of thing again this week, but we always reserve the right to discipline you in an appropriate manner if we think you're getting off track.

Speaker 1: 1:48

So we have a lot to talk about today. We're going to try to limit this to an hour. Olivier has a flight sometime today. We want to make sure he makes it, thank you, not that we want him to leave. So this is one of the things I talk about. So Olivier and I will disagree on the timing of the rapture, but pretty much agree on everything else. We're both premillennial. To me, that's the dividing line. That's the one where I really hard stop on that and we'll see. The best proof of who's right will be when it actually happens right and when any of this happens.

Speaker 1: 2:27

But this is one of the things I talk about. This is a grid that I use to analyze news, current events, and I look at things, you know Islam, rise of Islam, apostasy in the church, geopolitical unrest, wars, rumors of wars and, of course, israel. Israel is really at the heart and center of all this, and so we look at things. We're looking at acceleration, convergence, logistics and understanding. We'll probably bring in a little bit of this today, and I don't know if Olivier has ever seen this.

Speaker 1: 3:04

This is my. Jerusalem is a Cup of Trembling attempt. You know, that's my kind of putting my little Photoshop thing. And then this is sort of my view of how the like the four seals, the first four seals, the horsemen they increase in intensity over time during this last period of human history. So that's the, and intensity over time during this last period of human history. So that's the. That's just sort of my basic, a little bit of my basic. That's John the artist. I'm not drawing anything. So this is sort of the center of everything. Israel, of course, is the center of Bible prophecy. This was my title slide last week and I'd use it again this week the conflict, mainly right now, between Persia and Iran. So what do you see, in terms right now of Persia and Iran and Israel.

Speaker 2: 4:12

Well, I was going to miracle that 99% of the Iron Dome was successful. I mean, you think about it. This is I mean, when you think about the Iron Dome, think about somebody shooting a bullet at a bullet and stopping the bullet. That's about it in a bigger shape. So I'm looking at what Iran did and I can't help but thinking that they were just. They knew they were not going to succeed, but they wanted to scare people enough so that they would be able to define who's on our side and who's not. So it was not like, oh, we're going to destroy Israel overnight. They just wanted to push the envelope to see okay, so France and England and Jordan and the US, they're going to go with Israel if something bigger happens or when something bigger happens.

Speaker 2: 5:05

In Saudi Arabia right, Arab Emirates, Exactly. So I think this was. They were testing the water to see. Okay, who's on our side? China, Russia, you know, and would you agree with that?

Speaker 1: 5:17

Yeah, I think that. I think it was. It was a big attack it was. It was bigger than any that they've ever done and from land to land.

Speaker 2: 5:27

It was not by proxy, that was the big thing it was Iran going attacking the land of Israel directly.

Speaker 1: 5:36

Iran is usually of the mindset that we'll fight to the death of the last, you know, the last Lebanese.

Speaker 2: 5:47

Right. The last dead Lebanese From a distance, yes.

Speaker 1: 5:52

And that's why, ryan, just some pictures. These are propaganda posters that you see in Tehran. Here's another one, and you know it shows they're really big on this thing and they failed in a sense, but they probably gathered a lot of intel in the attack.

Speaker 2: 6:09

That's what I think they did. I think they basically they were gathering information to prepare for the next one, what I don't know. I mean we keep hearing reports that we've been hearing reports for five years now or if not more, that they're weeks or months of having the bomb.

Speaker 1: 6:28

I don't know. They say you know, I heard this week that there are three weeks, but it's been three weeks or one week, or ten days or four months for like 12 years. Yes, yes, when did Netanyahu put that little bomb thing together At the UN?

Speaker 2: 6:45

That's got to be eight years ago. Yeah, eight or nine years ago, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's that it. They keep saying that and but I don't even think they're gonna go. They would go for a nuclear attack, because I mean, maybe I'm naive.

Speaker 1: 7:02

Yeah, but that do I see a hand for a question.

Speaker 4: 7:04

Yes.

Speaker 1: 7:05

Go ahead.

Speaker 4: 7:06

One of the counterattack spots was Isfahan.

Speaker 1: 7:14

Do either of you know the battle damage assessment on it? The only thing I know about Isfahan. I do have a thing from last week. This is a graphic of Isfahan. I think I have one that might show some damage. No, that's an older one. That was another attack that they did on Isfahan. They did take out a. They took out a Soviet S-300, soviet manufactured S-300 air defense system. So I think part of it it's a chess game, right. They're kind of going back and forth, and so they didn't want to. Israel didn't want to escalate it to where the whole region erupts in war, and Iran didn't want to do that. So they sent an attack over 300 drones and missiles. They sent an attack over 300 drones and missiles. Israel repelled it all, although a few big missiles did land on the ground in Israel One in the Dead Sea, one in the Dead Sea and another one. People were hiking and they came across one that I forget the name of the city in the south and when you say big, they're the length of maybe 10 of those chairs.

Speaker 2: 8:21

I mean they're that big and very. I mean they're the length of maybe ten of those chairs. I mean they're that big and very. I mean they're huge things, they're not little things that you can just shoot from a I could probably see over top of a. Of what?

Speaker 1: 8:35

Of the missile laying down.

Speaker 2: 8:41

That's a short joke that's a short joke.

Speaker 1: 8:44

We're looking for a small stool, but he's not that short, really.

Speaker 2: 8:49

Just remember the last will be first, that's right.

Speaker 1: 8:53

Well, there's going to be some Effort involved in getting me off the ground Back to the topic. That's right. So what you're asking, Israel did a strategic attack. They did take out this S-300 system and I think it was very specifically targeted Like listen, we can take out your air defense system when we want and you can't do anything about it.

Speaker 1: 9:21

Now one of the things that they've talked about is that they may have used an air-launched missile or glide bomb, which is a little bit newer technology, where they can release the missile or the glide bomb like 60, 80 miles away from the target. Usually the air defense will have a range of 13 or 14 miles. So now they're saying see, we can get you and attack you and take out a specific target outside of your air missile defenses.

Speaker 2: 9:54

This was done with surgical precision really, and it's like going inside the hospital in a hostile environment. You go inside the hospital and then you remove a mole on somebody being uh, being uh operated on, and nobody sees you removing the mole and you leave and you don't say hey, by the way, when you were doing all this we removed the mole. You didn't even see us. That was surgical precision and the purpose was they could have done a lot more but, like you said there was, it was to send signal like we can do this any day, any time, anyhow we want.

Speaker 1: 10:28

And it's interesting and we'll talk a little bit more about this, because I've got some other slides but Iran hasn't responded and people in Iran are really upset. There's a lot of trouble with the regime. Do you think the regime will fall in Iran?

Speaker 2: 10:44

I hope it will. I'm old enough to remember pre-1979, you know, before the Shah was deposed.

Speaker 1: 10:50

The Shah was actually pro-Israel. His son, by the way, who's still alive, the Crown Prince, he's pro-Israel. Been to Israel recently.

Speaker 2: 10:59

I mean, the Shah was not the nicest person, but it was, you know. Yes, I don't know if they're going to be, if the regime is going to be deposed, but it's going to take the people of Iran to really, and the people of Iran I mean a lot of them are pro-Israel actually. I've seen some testimonies, amazing testimonies, of the Iranians. They're not, they don't adhere to the ideologies of the Mullahs and the Ayatollahs.

Speaker 1: 11:27

So my concern is that I believe Daniel 10 and the Prince of Persia which Michael encountered, remember Daniel? He was sent to go speak to Daniel and he gets to Daniel and he says for 21 days I've been trying to get through but I've been resisted by the Prince of Persia and I think that Prince of Persia still operates today. There's a demonic entity behind the Persian-Iranian government and so that's very strong. And my fear is I know there's a lot of optimism. I'm a lawyer so maybe I'm naturally pessimistic. I'm like the pathologist Everything looks great except that one little cell here. That really. But I'm concerned about Iran and the Prince of Persia power behind it. My concern is, if the mullahs fall, something's going to fill that vacuum, and what's going to fill that vacuum is not. I don't think it's going to be a democratic, freedom-loving movement.

Speaker 1: 12:31

It probably, at least right now would be the Iranian Revolutionary Guard would fill that vacuum, Because they have tremendous money, tremendous power. They're like the I think I liken them to the mafia. They parcel out territories and industries and that type of thing. So Ayatollah Khomeini controls a fortune that's estimated around $100 billion. Really, if he had access to all that money, he would be one of the richest people on the planet. But the Iranian Revolutionary Guard controls a similar fortune and they use that to fund their operations. So they're going to fund their operations independent of the government. They'll work with the government, but if the government's gone, they're not going anywhere. So you would have to take out all of them. And Israel did. I mean that was an amazing strike in Damascus. They took out about 15 of these guys, is my understanding.

Speaker 2: 13:27

They have the intel and I just don't know how much of Israel's hands are tied right now by the US. I mean, maybe you have some information on that.

Speaker 1: 13:41

Well, Israel's hands are tied by the US. This is Zahidi. He was the top Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps taken out on April 1st in Damascus. What's the characteristic that you notice about this guy? This is why I think the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is a much bigger deal. You can get rid of the Mullahs, but you still have guys like Zahidi and Soleimani, and Soleimani and Zahidi had a physical characteristic in common. Can you see what it is? The Islamic radical Islamic prayer bump? Here's a little closer. You see how he has that like a callus in his forehead. Is that what it is?

Speaker 2: 14:31

Yeah, it's a prayer bump from a devout Muslim. I learned something today From John, from.

Speaker 1: 14:37

John. And then here's the. This is the Ayatollah. This was a. I think you had seen a similar. Yes, yeah, I've seen had seen a similar editorial cartoon.

Speaker 1: 14:48

Here's a picture of a missile. These were not inconsequential things. There were about eight or ten ballistic missiles that were fired. I guess it would be two weeks ago now yeah, two weeks ago. This is the Tehran papers Iron lies and they lie about everything. So let's move on to let's talk about the student thing that's going on, because I think that's a big deal. So this is the opinion section of today's New York Times and it's like what's the title? What do you see in this picture? And it's all the signs anti-gaza, anti-israel, anti-zionist. What do you think of all this? I mean you, this is your area of expertise anti-semitism and the rise of anti-semit in this time.

Speaker 2: 15:43

What's happening on the campuses? Colombia is just one of them. What's happening in the campuses is the continuation of this normalization of anti-Semitism. Since October 7th, we have seen anti-Semitism come out of the box and it's or a better way to a better way to really do. An analogy is that anti-Semitism right now is like toothpaste it's been pressed out of the tube. You can't put it back in. It's impossible to put it back in, and so right now it's not going back in, it's only going to increase and increase and increase.

Speaker 2: 16:22

And I'm noticing that something that I never thought, I would even have think in my lifetime that anti-Semitism is becoming trendy. It's like it's cool to be anti-Semitic. Now, people, they don't even have a clue what it really means. When the youngsters on the campus they say from the river to the sea. They were interviewed by a conservative channel like Newsmax and they were asking so what river and what sea? I don't know. The Gaza River, the Black Sea? They didn't know, they had no idea. They just thought that hey, it's social justice, we're fighting for social justice. We don't have to know what it is, we know it's social justice. We're fighting for social justice. We don't have to know what it is. We know it's a good cause.

Speaker 2: 17:08

As a matter of fact, there was also people asking the people who were doing protests on Colombia, what are you protesting against? And she looked at her girlfriend like maybe 20-year-old. She goes what are we? I don't know. They did not know. They just knew that they wanted to be part of that crowd that was saying something against Israel. But when you hear what they're saying, you know burn Tel Aviv to the ground, final solution. They are in that group a lot of students that are completely clueless because they haven't been educated in the universities for a long time now and they've been indoctrinated by Marxists. That's what happened. So a lot of them don't have a clue. But in the mix there are also people who very much have a clue and they want to get rid of the Jews. And it's hard to decipher who is who. What are you showing on the picture here?

Speaker 1: 18:04

Well, this is just some articles, editorials in the New York Times this morning. You know the student-led protests aren't perfect. That doesn't mean they're not right. That's one, you know, which you would expect from the New York Times. And then, of course, david French. Leave the French alone. This one. It's okay to be against this French guy. Okay. Okay, he alone this one. It's okay to be against this French guy. Okay, he used to be a conservative and then he's just turned into this murky kind of mishmash of a lot of really bad ideas. But he says colleges are going off the deep end. There is a way back. You mentioned something first hour about Ilhan Omar.

Speaker 2: 18:43

Yes, talk a little bit about that. I just got this. This morning I was watching my news feed and Ilhan Omar went to, you know, and it was basically a photo op. Of course, she went on the campus where the encampment is, the campus of Columbia University. Her daughter is a student there and she talked to some of the protesters and then she showed her face and then hugged and everything.

Speaker 2: 19:09

And then she was asked by a reporter, as she was walking away what do you think about all the anti-Semitism against Jewish students? And she goes. I think it's deplorable, and she might have not used that word, but the end I know exactly that's what she said. At the beginning she said it's despicable. Whatever, it shouldn't happen that Jewish students should suffer from anti-Semitism. And then she added this so it sounded good. And then she added this Regardless if they're pro-genocide or anti-genocide, and she was not talking about the genocide committed by Hamas on October 7th, the 1,200 Israeli people who died Terrible death. She was talking about what the world is seeing today, post-october 7th the genocide quote-unquote of the Palestinians in Gaza, and I don't have an exact number because nobody really knows. I mean, they're talking about what? 34,000 people I've heard 34,000, 40.

Speaker 1: 20:03

It's interesting, it's been like 32,000 people. I've heard 34,000, 40,000. It's interesting, it's been like 32,000 for like eight weeks. Right, it hasn't really gone up.

Speaker 2: 20:09

We don't know, but we know that Israel is taking a lot of precautions, as they always do, and this is why it's taking so long, because if they really wanted to get rid of the whole thing although you do have the problem with the hostages, if any of them are still alive they could have just destroyed the whole Gaza Strip and called it quit. But they're taking so long because they want to bring those hostages home and they want to make sure that they eradicate Hamas, but they don't want to kill any Gazan citizen, innocent Palestinians. There are some, and probably less than I. I always think positive, like a lot of Palestinians are not necessarily pro-Hamas, but I think when Hamas was voted, they got 70% of the votes when they were in 2006 yeah, and all the surveys.

Speaker 1: 21:00

My friends at the IDSF have done surveys and everybody's fighting, like in Gaza and in the West Bank, judea and Samaria, among Arabs.

Speaker 2: 21:13

Support for Hamas is well above 80% and so Hamas is painted as the underdog, I don't know why. And then so young people in America and probably parts of the world, and it's going to keep growing. And I think they're just the same, pretty much the same kids and the same other people joining forces that had nothing better to do when BLM kind of died off, so now they found another cause. The problem is that when it involves the Jews, we don't know how bad it's going to get. And we don't know how bad it's going to get and we don't know how long it's going to get. It's going to get ugly.

Speaker 2: 21:48

And I wrote an article on my blog. I just posted it a couple of days ago, and the title of the article I know it sounds very encouraging. I said are they building the next Jewish ghetto? Let me explain. This is a theory. Okay, let me explain, based on my research of the last 23 years and what happened in the 30s and 40s.

Speaker 2: 22:08

Jews are asked by some of their rabbis and Jewish professors to go home from the universities, finish your studies online graduation ceremonies, like at USC, and I don't know, maybe more by now, but a couple of days ago USC said we're not going to have a graduation ceremony Too dangerous. So they're starting to tell people from all those schools Jewish kids, you know, go home, it's not safe for you. We need to. You need to go home, you need to be where it's safe. At the same time, some of these people doing the riots on the university campuses have published and I'm sure you heard about that they published the names and some private information about Jewish professors and probably also Jewish students, so that their home address is known. So if somebody wants to go there and it will happen somebody wants to go there, they will go there and cause harm. So now we've got the authorities telling the Jewish people it's not safe for you. So you can't just be Jewish safely anymore.

Speaker 2: 23:19

There was a guy in London it's not the universities, but in London. He was at a protest, a Pope-Parisian protest, and he was wearing a yarmulke, which is becoming more and more. It already looks like a target, but it's becoming more and more of a target. He was wearing a yarmulke on the street, across the street, with a group of people, you know, in support of Israel, and the police came to him and said you can't stay here, you're too Jewish, because he was wearing a yarmulke. So the Jews are being told it's not safe for you.

Speaker 2: 23:48

It sounds good, but it's not safe for you to be Jewish in public, so go home. Next thing is what they know where you live. Let us help you to go in a place where it's even safer and keep you together, safe from harm, for your own good. For your own good, for your own good. In my book it's called the ghetto, and after the ghetto they had the trains. After the trains they had the death camp. I know it sounds terrible, but I think this is where it's going so here's a couple headlines.

Speaker 1: 24:19

This is from I would like your opinion on that, by the way.

Speaker 1: 24:21

Well, I think this is what's happening. Look, it's driving the Jews back to Israel. I mean, Israel's been attacked. They're in a war right now. Still, the safest place in the world, the safest place in the world for them? Yeah, absolutely, it's a little bit hard to wrap your heads around. So these are just some headlines from recent Tehran Times. I always read, so like. I read the New York Times, I read the Tehran Times, I read the Jerusalem Post. I sort of use the Cal Thomas approach. He would get up every morning and say I read my Bible to figure out what God's doing, and then I read the New York Times to figure out what the other side is doing. And it's generally pretty true and you can actually extract some truth from New York Times articles. But Tehran Times inside the fall of the academic brainwashing project. The project that Tehran, the Iranian government, says is the brainwashing project, is that there are people on campuses that actually support Israel. That's their brainwashing.

Speaker 2: 25:30

So they're spinning the whole thing around, they're flipping it upside down.

Speaker 1: 25:36

This is what they do all the time. And so here, campus crackdown, abetting genocide. So the people on campus are saying kill the Jews, burn Tel Aviv. And Tehran Times says, yes, cracking down on the protesters is abetting the Israeli genocide. So this is, maybe this is on Omar's favorite newspaper. Oh, yeah, yeah, because of what they say, this is interesting for the London Times today. The only thing they agree on everyone else is the bigot. So there's no, there doesn't seem to be any middle ground, any common ground. I think. Humboldt, california, university of California, humboldt, yes, which I think is up north in California. Yeah, it's up north. They probably have a whole majoring in weed and usage and the pharmaceutical properties of weed and distribution and their business program up there.

Speaker 2: 26:36

But they've canceled for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1: 26:39

I just I'm a bigot. I'm a bigot against Northern California because they're a bunch of crazy people up there. I mean, do you ever venture really very far north of Sacramento?

Speaker 2: 26:51

We lived in California for a while with our family for 11 years. My wife is from California. I have ventured Well. We took the whole coast when we moved back to Seattle, thinking that Seattle would be a better place than California, and then we defected and moved to Texas. But when I go up north I'll go as north as Bakersfield because at Brandon Holt House Church I feel I'm safe.

Speaker 1: 27:18

Right and Brandon and I did a show the other day called Tip of the Spear, so I don't know if that's published yet or not. Wonderful guy, great guy, great friend of both of us. So this is a big problem. They were having protests down at the Ohio State University this week.

Speaker 2: 27:37

They did. I read that.

Speaker 1: 27:39

So this is in the Financial Times, a financial newspaper. They have this big article in yesterday's paper. A Columbia newspaper. They have this big article in yesterday's paper, a Columbia diary and essentially she says it's not really that bad, it's all overblown. I don't know what people are so upset about. It's just a bunch of kids out there protesting, and this is Ross Douthat. You can get his at the New York Times today.

Speaker 2: 28:02

He's kind of a central type guy, it's making its way through the entire academia, because I saw a cartoon the other day. It was perfect. It was a student with a big question mark on his head and the teacher, the professor, was going like I don't know if he was wearing a keffiyeh or anything, but he was saying Palestine shall be free. And the student goes this is chemistry, but that's where we are right now. I mean, you go, take a class in anything and you'll be the false. Positive Palestinian narrative will be shoved down your throat for four years and that's what you get. You get those kids who have no idea of no clue of history. 33% of American youth in Gen Z's do not know what the Holocaust was, and 37% and I think those are from I don't know where I got those numbers, but I got the source at home 37% who know the Holocaust cannot name one camp and don't know what Auschwitz is. And we're only 80 years down the road.

Speaker 1: 29:17

Well, what were they yelling at Colombia? Final solution. Well, yeah, they're yelling, final solution. And what else were they yelling? Go back to Poland.

Speaker 2: 29:26

Go back to Poland yes, that's where Auschwitz was, of course, in Krakow, in Auschwitz, yeah, next to Krakow, yes, and so they don't even know their history or anything.

Speaker 1: 29:39

You're going to talk about Palestinian keffiyeh that they wear the headscarf, okay, so there's people who've been analyzing that recently, and this is a guy named. So here, 5 BT, sa h ir, 5 BT on Twitter and I said Olivia and this and I tried to bring it up but I probably messed up everything, and so so they have the. You know, they have the. They have like two blue lines or two lines, and then they have like wavy lines in between. That actually comes from an Assyrian symbol and it represents the area between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, and the lines with the sort of knot-looking thing that represents a fishing net, and so they're appropriating it. As one Jewish person said, they're even colonizing Assyrian symbols to support the keffiyeh supports this claim from the river to the sea. What do they mean by that?

Speaker 2: 30:48

Well, hold on, I was going to. If I send you something, you can publish it on the. I can try to publish it, because I was going to send you something else about the keffiyeh. That's very telling, okay, and this is obviously not rehearsed.

Speaker 1: 31:02

Let me.

Speaker 2: 31:04

Okay, this is obviously not rehearsed, let me. Okay, so if you can publish your, well, you know, what you need is Apple TV here.

Speaker 1: 31:10

Well, I do have that, but I I don't want to waste it. Stop letting me share.

Speaker 2: 31:16

Go ahead. No, but I want you to look at the way. Who made the Keffiyeh popular? Yasser Arafat. He wore it every day. Did you know that? Every time he wore his keffiyeh on the right side, he pinned it to his coat, to his collar and to his jacket in the shape of Palestine. Oh, every time he went, he took the time because it's not worn that way, on one side only, but he always pinned it in the shape of Israel, the full thing. Look at the photos Every single time. That's what I just sent you. Look at this picture. Oh, look at that. We're fancy here. So, yeah, I mean the Keffiyeh from the river to the sea, is it you want me to explain that? I mean that's if you are you online right now. Yeah, so put Arafat keffiyeh and you'll get that picture. I don't know how to spell keffiyeh what?

Speaker 1: 32:19

I don't know how to spell it that well.

Speaker 2: 32:24

I spell the, when I spell yeah, hold on, I'll tell you. I'm going to get a bunch of pictures. Put Arafat, just put Arafat. And K-E-F-F-I-A-H. Okay, arafat, if you just put Arafat, that should be enough, because he wears it always the same way. But sometimes you want to see the front, arafat, kefya, and that's there. Yeah, there you go. He always pins it and it looks a little different depending on how he moves, but it's always pinned. It's never that. Nobody wears it that way, only Arafat Interesting. And so you learned something from Olivia too. I do. Yeah, our job is done.

Speaker 1: 33:04

I learned from him, he learned from me. We're done, and you know where the whole Palestinian idea came from the. What do you mean? No passing in? Well, the Palestinian people were created out of whole cloth by the KGB back in the 1960s before.

Speaker 2: 33:17

yeah, we'll put him on in place. Yes, he's. By the way, he's Egyptian was right.

Speaker 1: 33:25

Yeah, can I expound on that a little bit, please? It's your show. So there's a guy you should look up. His name is Francisco Gil White. He was a tenure track professor at University of Pennsylvania and he started writing about his views of the Palestinian Arab-Israel conflict and he got fired. He is superb and he did an interview. I can't remember the name of the guy. The guy interviews all kinds of different people, even some crazy nuts, and the guy is excellent. But he made a point Arafat.

Speaker 1: 34:03

There was a very critical guy in I'll call it Palestinian, for lack of a better term Palestinian history the Hajj Aman al-Husseini, the Hajj from the 1920s, the Grand Mufti, the Mufti who worked with Hitler, helped Hitler with his final solution. He was a fugitive after World War II. He fled to Iraq, by the way, the Hodge. It is believed. There's pretty good evidence that the Hodge had a nephew that he trained Yasser Arafat. I've heard that he then went to I think Jimmy DeYoung used to talk about this a lot too. But he went to Iraq and he lived with a guy who was starting the Ba'ath Party, a Marxist, leftist, anti-jew, pro-arab party, and he lived with this guy for a while and this guy for a while. And this guy had a nephew. His name was Saddam Hussein. So can you see the circle connecting there a bit. And then the Russians came in and used these guys to kind of throw that unreason in the Middle East and they could say, oh, we're on the side of these people and that type of thing. So it's.

Speaker 2: 35:26

So to circle back to Sorry, go ahead. You're talking about the Kefya, from the river to the sea. You talked about the fishnet and the sea waves. We see them very well in the picture here. You know the waves and the sea. I did not know that actually. That was very informative and here those would represent the two rivers. Yeah, from the river to the sea.

Speaker 1: 35:51

This would be the waves, the river, and then this is the fishing net, the fishing net.

Speaker 2: 35:58

And the understanding is that from the river to the sea right now is from the, you know it's not the Euphrates and the Tigris. Right now it's the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. Okay, so it's Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. What's between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea? Israel? You know most of the kids don't know that because you would ask them to point to Israel on a map, they probably won't even know. It's so small and anyway. But from the river to the sea basically is a euphemism for genocide, kill the Jews, and so that's what they're saying. Some of them know why they're saying it and some of them don't, but the danger is the same. What's next? Whoops.

Speaker 1: 36:40

There we go. That's one of my favorite graphics of Israel right now because it kind of gives you the geographic problem. You've got the coastal plain where most of the Israeli Jews and Arabs live, and then you have what's called the West Bank, judea and Samaria, and then Jerusalem would be in that dark part in the middle. So you have Judea to the south, samaria to the north and what's characteristic of it, it's the high ground and this is what they want for a two-state solution, and I think we're going to get to that in a little bit, but I just think that's a great.

Speaker 2: 37:15

And the Gaza Strip is on the bottom left of the red part, that little tiny part down here right. You see those little white lines on the bottom left by the ocean. That's the Gaza Strip, right there.

Speaker 1: 37:26

Like right in this area here, yeah, this area right here, so it's not that much. And so Israel, jerusalem, would be up. Well, now they moved me in, there you go. Israel would be right in here. Of course, this up here at the north, that's Mount Hermon, but 10,000 feet above sea level, snow, a lot of snow. Caesarea, philippi tell Dan and you, you've had a tour, you had a tour to, can't yet to cancel the Jew.

Speaker 2: 37:57

We had a tour going with, some of you might know, jeff Kinley and Todd Henson, the prophecy pros, and we had a tour, the of us leading a tour, and we were getting on a plane on October 8th.

Speaker 1: 38:13

Needless to say, we did not.

Speaker 2: 38:18

And you were supposed to be here last Sunday but we had to move it to this Sunday. Because why? Right, because I was going to be in Israel. Yeah, I called John a couple of months ago.

Speaker 1: 38:25

You were supposed to fly on the Saturday, the 13th.

Speaker 2: 38:28

I said, john, I have an opportunity to go with Brandon Holdhouse and a couple of his pastors to serve the IDF, to pray for them, to pray with them, to bring them things and to do ministry there. So it was not a tour like I'm taking every year, like I'm supposed to take at the end of this year. It was a mission trip, so to speak, and it was supposed to start from the 13th to the 20th and on Saturday night, sunday morning, I was going to fly to Boston and Boston to Tel Aviv. On Saturday night they closed Ben Gurion. They closed the skies because Iran was was sending missiles right and left, so we had to cancel again. So I had somebody in my Bible study at church who said, olivier, if you pick a third date and something else happens, maybe you should stop picking dates and not go to Israel anymore. So I'm starting to develop a little bit of a complex.

Speaker 1: 39:16

Or just let everybody know when you're going and they can schedule some other time, and then if you get to go, everything will be wide open. You won't have any crowds. Great idea. What is this? Who's funding this?

Speaker 2: 39:29

That's the question Funding what?

Speaker 1: 39:31

The colleges, the colleges.

Speaker 2: 39:33

Well, I think that Soros has probably some money in that.

Speaker 1: 39:38

By the way, I saw a video. They have like whole stations of hygiene products and food and trays of food, but it's supposed to be spontaneous.

Speaker 2: 39:51

It is. It is spontaneous. You look at the pictures. All the tents are the same shape, same size, same color. They all called each other in the morning. What color is your tent today? It's financed. Those tents were purchased. It was your pack. You got a tent. You got your sign that was pre-printed like those corrugated plastic political signs you see on lawns. And this is all organized. This is not spontaneous.

Speaker 1: 40:17

Sorry for yelling and this is a memo that an Iranian guy got from the Iranian government and the English translation I'll just save you trying to squint and read. That essentially says organize these colleges into protests. That's an Iranian government thing. So this is well-funded on many different levels for many different people, none of which have anybody's best interest at heart. This is Michael Oren. Today. He's calling it manipulated education, and you know we support free speech, but where do we draw the line, is the question.

Speaker 2: 41:00

You draw the line when other people's lives are at risk.

Speaker 1: 41:03

Or you're a Christian praying at an abortion clinic. That's an extreme, Of course. I'm just going to play a clip. I got this from Caroline Glick off her Twitter feed this morning To contend successfully with your enemy, you need to listen to him and take him seriously. In our world, what passes for strategy begins with ignoring and dismissing the importance of the enemy and blaming ourselves for the enemy's aggression. This is why we are in danger and, by the way, go to her Twitter feed at Caroline Glick and look at the responses that, in my view, I think you guys were going to interview her when you were in Israel and I'm trying to schedule one with her too. So I pray it all comes together for all of us.

Speaker 1: 41:51

A great lady, a great Jewish lady, a great thinker, writer, articulate, yes, and I remember years ago she was at a conference. You can look it up. It was a. She was at a conference. You can look it up. It was a Jerusalem post conference and there was some knucklehead from an EU country that said something about well, you Jews are you get what you? You're really to blame for what happens to you. And it was so funny because she's sitting there and it was almost like a top gun scenario where you, you know target, acquired radar, lock and fire and she sets down her glass and she just blasts the sky to oblivion. It's one of. You can find it on the internet.

Speaker 2: 42:32

She's very articulate and she thinks on her feet.

Speaker 1: 42:34

But listen to what this rabbi says in well. And then this came from a twit the protester about what they say globalized the intifada. Listen to this rabbi. I think it's a great response to that claim.

Speaker 4: 42:49

The protests are about what they say. It's about, from the river to the sea Globalize the intifada. Why globalize the intifada? Do they know what that was? It was a mass murder campaign on the streets of Israel, in restaurants, schools, buses, hospitals.

Speaker 4: 43:15

On one of my visits to Israel during those years, I met Nathan, a security guard, on September 4th 2001. He was on patrol outside a hospital in Jerusalem. It was 7 am. Someone brought to his attention a suspicious-looking person, and so we went to check out who that was, and he saw a man that looked in every way like an ultra-Orthodox Jew. There appeared to be nothing wrong. Nothing seemed unusual. But then Nathan noticed something a bit strange. He saw that this ultra-Orthodox Jew was wearing a backpack. He looked into the man's eyes. He felt a powerful surge of danger. He told me that he immediately cocked his rifle, but hesitated firing for one brief second, and at that second the terrorist, who disguised himself as a Haredi Jew, exploded his backpack.

Speaker 4: 44:23

Nathan spent two weeks in a coma During his stay in the hospital. The chief of the Israeli police came to visit. The chief said that they caught another terrorist working with the first one, who revealed in interrogation that their intention was to go into the hospital that Nathan was guarding and to explode themselves in the baby ward. That was the intifada. That is what American students want to globalize. This is social justice Fighting to dismantle the world's only Jewish state by blowing yourself up in a maternity ward, by taking babies and children hostage, by murdering 1,200 innocent souls in their bedrooms. Woe to the students who believe these ideas. Woe to their teachers who taught them these ideas. Woe to administrators who do not reject these ideas loudly he's right.

Speaker 1: 45:37

so now, where do you see this going on the political side? This because now you, now there's this push to free the hostages Well, not everybody. There's a very big divide in Israeli society. Most want to finish the job in Gaza, but there's a very vocal group that says we've got to get the hostages out. What do you think is going to happen? Politically, it's easy to say there's no right answer because you give 12 different answers yeah, honestly, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 46:07

I mean, I know that and that's not even a shared opinion. I know that I believe that Netanyahu is the right man for the job right now and he is between a rock and a hard place because they have I think they have to finish the job in Gaza. If they don't completely eradicate Hamas, they it's, it's, it's just gonna grow, it's like a bad weed, it's gonna grow back and it's gonna do more damage. The the thing that they have for themselves that Israel is is, you know, the difference is that the Israelis value life where the other side worships death. So there's no connection there.

Speaker 1: 46:50

You keep talking. I'm going to play. This is a proof of life video that Hamas released, so there's no sound to it.

Speaker 2: 46:57

So I think that Israel needs to finish the job in Gaza and eradicate Hamas. What they might do and we've seen some of that, we heard some of that. You and I were talking about it this morning. They said that if the hostages are released, I think there's like 133 still left.

Speaker 1: 47:20

I think it's more than that 133 not returned.

Speaker 2: 47:23

We don't know how many still alive, nobody knows. Okay, and they got two videos of two of the guys. Oh, that's him. That's one of the two videos, but we don't even know if those videos are actually done yesterday or they almost look AI generated in some respects.

Speaker 2: 47:39

Yeah, that's also possible. So I don't think they're that good though. But anyway, the people doing the AI, I'm saying so. I think they need to finish the job, but what they might do is they might wait. They might say, like you know, we're not going to go do the final obliteration of Gaza if the hostages are coming back. But there were mixed messages even this morning where they might have said that. Who said that? Who did you hear that from this morning? They said they're going to hold off. You mentioned the name to me. Yeah, I'm going to get to that. The foreign minister. This is Raqqa. This might be a way to say we're not going to and then do it. And when people don't expect it, this might be a way to say we're not going to do it and then do it when people don't expect it. So it might be like a strategy to get to them.

Speaker 1: 48:27

Do you know what these guys are saying? Here's an excerpt. Hamas posted a video two Israeli hostages where they asked, seemingly under pressure and reading from a script, to keep pressuring the Israeli government to access Hamas conditions. Hamas added a title at the end force your Nazi government to accept the deal because we don't have much time left is supposedly what these men said. Their families say they're thin. They've been, if they're still alive. They've been there for six months, over 200 days now. This is terrible. This is a video that this is a Lebanese, syrian lady. I want you to listen to just a minute of this.

Speaker 2: 49:08

Now, is there sound to those videos? I have sound to this one. No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop, stop, stop, because I have never seen that video Again. As you can see, this is very, very well rehears, rehearsed the videos of the two hostages. Right now there's Arabic on the screen. Is there sound in an original one that we can actually hear them say what they're saying? Yeah, you can hear what they're saying, because I was gonna say, if it's only word from Arabic words but no sound, I don't trust what they're saying. So you have to have somebody read the lips.

Speaker 1: 49:43

I can start it up and see if they're here. The Syrian woman. Listen to what she says.

Speaker 5: 50:02

I am Syrian Lebanese. I'm also a German citizen. I'm one of many millions who had to leave the Middle East. I'm one of the few who still remember why we had to leave. Life was hell, and it still is, for the majority of people in Lebanon, syria, iraq and Iran, thanks to the Iranian regime and its allies and proxies. The Iranian regime, you claim, has the right to defend itself. It's proxies, such as Hamas, that you are championing on the streets in the West. Have you ever wondered why we haven't seen mass pro-Palestine protests in the Middle East? See, in the West you are privileged. You can demand, even without understanding. Back where I come from, we don't demand. We are grateful if we find the means to feed our children, to pay the rent, to buy our medication. We are thankful if we're not arrested, tortured and raped. You should know that you are supporting our oppressors, that you are betraying us, all of us, the Gazans included.

Speaker 1: 51:28

So this is a great article by Douglas Murray I won't go into it in the New York Post the other day. You can find it online very easily and he's talking about what the Hague criminal court is doing. They're threatening to arrest all of the Israeli leadership if they leave Israel, so that if they came to the UN, they would have to have rock-solid agreements in place to leave the country. They want to do this with Netanyahu. They want to do this with others, and this is coming from a British prosecutor at the International Criminal Court. This is where this with others, and this is coming from a British prosecutor at the International Criminal Court. This is where this is going. By the way, have they said this about Senwar, or Hania Hania? He just flew from Qatar, the political leader of Hamas, from Qatar to Istanbul. He's been up to Iran. Hamas representatives have been to Russia. This whole thing is very bothersome to me. So here's Caroline Glick again and she says listen, this is bad. And again, go to Caroline Glick, follow her, read the comments in response. So she posted this about the International Criminal Court and she said this is going to be very bad. So it got retweeted by this despicable, disgusting human being. And if you follow me and you like this guy, you're insane. His name is Scott Ritter. He is pro-Iranian, pro-russian, pro-syrian and he's on all these shows.

Speaker 1: 53:15

And then here is John Mersheimer. Mersheimer wrote a very famous book a few years ago with Stephen Walt, who works at, I think, at Foreign Policy called the Israel Lobby. Mersheimer is a University of Chicago professor. By the way. Where was did we have a president who was a teacher at the University of Chicago Law School recently? Yeah, sometimes we call it the O'Biden administration. So I want you to listen to what Mersheimer and this is an editorial cartoon.

Speaker 1: 53:48

But look at what Scott Ritter says. He says this he calls himself the weapons inspector. He's all over social media. He's free now because he finished a sentence for solicitation of a young girl for sex. He spent time in prison in Pennsylvania. So he's free now. So it's okay. I'm sure he's a great character. Oh yeah, he makes my skin crawl. And he says he's replied to Caroline. It means he's replying to Caroline. It means the beginning of the end of Israel, a criminal enterprise led by little war criminals. Indictment day should become an international holiday. So Judge Napolitano talks to John Mersheimer, the University of Chicago professor. He wrote a book called the Israel Lobby about how all his you know you guys have all the money. Did you know that?

Speaker 2: 54:53

Well, we control the banks Right and the media and the government.

Speaker 1: 54:57

In Hollywood, like the Seven Mountains. Absolutely, you're the dominionist already it's about time you realized that, I know. And so like here's an editorial cartoon Uncle Sam feeding the Netanyahu monster. You see that? You see the imagery. This is from the Tehran Times, I think, today. So here's judgment Judge Napolitano, we think of him as what Great conservative Fox News. We love him, right, don't trust him. I don't watch.

Speaker 2: 55:35

Fox News anymore.

Speaker 1: 55:36

Do not trust him at all. Here's his interview with John Burschheim, where everybody says oh, he's the greatest geopolitical expert in the world.

Speaker 3: 55:45

Here we go, the idea that you're going to defeat Hamas once and for all and then the Israelis are going to live happily ever after. That's not going to happen, so is this going to?

Speaker 4: 55:55

end diplomatically, or is it going to end with a wider regional war?

Speaker 3: 56:00

Well, I don't believe I hope I'm wrong it's going to end diplomatically. I believe it's just going to go on and on, and what that means is that the potential for a wider war is always there, right? Can I say one way or the other that you are going to get a wider war? No, I don't know. We just don't know where this train is headed, but the potential for horizontal escalation is significant. I'm good.

Speaker 1: 56:32

Olivier was noting the time.

Speaker 2: 56:35

Not for my plane, because you told him it was one hour. Yeah, well, we got a little bit of a waste of time.

Speaker 1: 56:40

And then hours. It's kind of like about an hour. I do know what an hour is. I do know what an hour is. I used to build them.

Speaker 2: 56:51

Just so that you know. At our friend's Andy Woods church, who preaches very long, he says at his church there's no clock. In the end there's a calendar. So that's what you need to do when it's prophecy hour you should put a calendar on the wall.

Speaker 1: 57:05

So this was an interview with. This is the Israel foreign minister who was saying we're going to suspend the Rafa'op if we get the hostages back. That was the Israel foreign minister on channel 12 news Suspend or postpone. Well, they wouldn't say. He said arrest warrants from the Hague absolute hypocrisy. If necessary, we will not leave the country for a deal, we will suspend the operation in Rafa. That's what he said in this interview on Channel 12. And this is where they play the hostage video and that sort of thing.

Speaker 2: 57:38

I want to bring a little bit of a biblical perspective here. It's really not going to take long, because I just want to bring us back to Zechariah 12. We should be disgusted with all this, we should be upset, we should do everything we can. Again, this brings us back to what can we do in America? You can support ministries that will make a difference. You can help prepare to help Jewish people and receive them in your homes and have a chance to share the gospel with them. That's the idea beyond our ministry.

Speaker 2: 58:08

But in Zechariah 12, verse 3,. But it will be on that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples, and all who heave it up will be severely injured and all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it. We shouldn't be surprised. And right now we are living in the days where the whole world, faster than I expected, is turning against Israel. And you know what?

Speaker 2: 58:37

As crazy as it is, it also should be an encouragement to us believers, because it proves one more time in a negative way, that the Bible is true and that God is going to finish His program. And in verse 9 of that same chapter and it will be in that day that I will seek God is speaking. I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. So I tell you, friends, it should be encouraging to us to know that what God is saying is happening. It's bad that it's happening to my people and we want to make sure as many as possible know Yeshua and I will never say that enough, but it just confirms that the Bible is without error and that God is going to. You know, the promises of God stand forever.

Speaker 1: 59:26

So anyway, Well, so I've used this graphic before because you say the nations gathered against Israel. So, about seven years ago, six and a half years ago, erdogan's one of his main mouthpiece newspapers in Turkey, you know, and he, three, eight months ago, he's planning to come to Israel. He's our friend. We're normalizing relations. But back in 2017, you know, during the time of the Abraham Accords and the Jerusalem Embassy being moved to Jerusalem, it was actually right after Trump announced that Erdogan has this big conference and his newspaper publishes this map. Okay, so you know, andy, I know, andy and all these guys, we all have our Ezekiel 38 maps. This is one of the Ezekiel 38 players' maps and he published it. One of the Ezekiel 38 players maps, yeah, and he published it in a major newspaper in Turkey. You can still find it online. And then there's also a web page. You know the maps that you make up Interactive, interactive map that everything is pointing right at Israel from all the Arab countries.

Speaker 2: 1:00:40

Because Israel is such a thorn in the flesh of the Middle East, it's so big, it's taken over. They're big and scary, big and scary, and we control everything, obviously.

Speaker 1: 1:00:49

It's interesting, though, iran did this on one of their maps too, when they put in Israel Look at that, it's all of Israel, from the river to the sea is Israel. Iran has done that too.

Speaker 2: 1:01:06

They have bad editors right.

Speaker 2: 1:01:07

That's interesting there's no gaza and no, jesus, there's no west bank, it's israel. Now watch this. Jews in america and in europe are being forced to move to israel. If the lord tarry's are being forced to move to Israel, if the Lord tarries, you're going to see a decrease in technology and innovation in the countries where the Jews left. I'm not saying we're better, we're smarter. I'm just saying 22% of the Nobel Prizes in the world and it's only been since 1904, are from Jews, who make up 0.02% of the world population. If the Jews move from those countries and move to Israel, look what happened when the Russian Jews in the 80s came to Israel. All this innovation and things. So just watch, just watch. It's going to bite us back. I mean not us, but America or those countries where the Jews are leaving because they're forced to leave because of anti-Semitism. That's going to happen.

Speaker 1: 1:02:13

Look, we said we'd go about an hour. It's been about an hour even in my time frame. I'll have to come back. I appreciate your final words. We'll have to have you back. We'll have to come back. I appreciate your final words. We'll have to have you back. We'll have to get together online sometime and talk some more. And because we really could go for a long time, we were talking all night last night and at dinner and we never lack for anything to talk about, especially in today's day and age.

Speaker 2: 1:02:42

I'll call him and we set up the show on my channel and I said so we're going to talk about, especially in today's day and age. I'll call him and we set up the show on my channel and I say so, we're going to talk about this. And then he starts telling me, and after ten minutes of not being able to say anything, he says stop, keep it for the show.

Speaker 1: 1:02:57

I have to get warmed up. It's exercise, it's like working out, I see, I see so, by the way, this is Israel, jerusalem in 1937. Look at the area south of the Temple Mount. The village is not really there yet. The Arab village of Silwan. Now wait a minute. I thought the Arabs lived all over that land. I thought they lived in Jerusalem and controlled everything. That's an aerial picture in 1937. There's nothing there Now, if you go there to today, this is a more recent one. Why is that not moving? You can see there are buildings and everything down there. It changed Because there was an operation. Because why? Because the Jews were moving in. They had to go get the land, and all this stuff about stolen land and all this stuff. This is a bunch of nonsense. You need to follow a British lawyer named Natasha Halsdorf with the UK Lawyers for Israel, uk LFI. She's phenomenal, very bright. You sort of assume that.

Speaker 2: 1:04:22

Not always I do Careful. No, no, no, I forgot what I was going to say. No, no, no. Did you ever show your people and the people online the flag of Palestine prior to? You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1: 1:04:41

Right. Yeah, I don't have it handy right here, it's, it's, uh, actually you can.

Speaker 2: 1:04:47

Can you do a quick search? I'll tell you what to search for.

Speaker 1: 1:04:49

Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:04:51

Okay, and we'll finish with that. He's dragging us out. Okay, so, l-a-r-o-u, a-r-o-u, s-s-e. Nineteen, forty, nine, nineteen, thirty nine, a-r-o-u, s-s-e. 1939. Palestine flag. I own, okay, this one, yeah, this one. So go to this picture. Actually, it's better, it goes. Look on the left, this is a. I've got to get the oh, you've got to.

Speaker 1: 1:05:22

I've got to copy it and put it into the. Okay, so it is a day I've got to get the. Oh, you got it.

Speaker 2: 1:05:25

You got to get got a copy of it and put it into the. Okay, so it's a dictionary, I honed. It's a French dictionary that's been published yearly since I mean in 1939 it was like their 250th edition Yearly. It's been going forever. It's a Larousse dictionary and I have a copy of it. It's about that big and it's the Larousse Dictionary and I have a copy of it. It's about that big and it's got a page, a double page, with flags.

Speaker 2: 1:05:46

1939 was nine years before Israel was created as a modern state. On the left page, third from the left, you got France, albania and Germany. Germany is Germany 1939, germany was Nazi Germany, so that was their flag. That makes sense. Okay, now go to the next page, go three from the top, three. From the left, you've got the flag of Palestine, which is not the one you see today. The one you see today is the Jordan flag minus that little star. It's almost identical. This is the flag of Palestine.

Speaker 2: 1:06:23

All the coins, the Palestinian coins. I have three of those at home. They say Palestina, philistine, palestina in Hebrew and Palestine in English, and I have a coin from 1931. And next to the word Palestina in Hebrew there is a parenthesis with an Aleph and you can do Palestinian coin 1937, they'll find it. I'm putting him to work. There is an Aleph and a Yod and those two letters are for Eretz Israel. The Palestinian coins have the word Eretz, land of Israel, on each and every one of them, from 20 years before Israel was a nation.

Speaker 2: 1:07:05

Any of those? It's right there. Okay, let me, I'm not making it up. It must be true. It's on the internet. I have those coins. When I teach on this, I bring a coin with me and I bring the dictionary. I was not doing that today but because people go like, well, you know, here it is. And so Palestine was just a landmass. That you know from the Romans. It got called that. Okay, so you see the third. You've got Arabic, then English, then Hebrew. Hebrew reads from right to left, so you've got Palestina, and in parenthesis, an Aleph looks like an X and a little apostrophe. That's the Yod Aleph, yod Initials for Eretz Yisrael, 1937. I have one from 1937, from 1935. Different dates, but prior to 1948, palestine was Israel. Nobody cared. They started the agenda of the displaced people to take it to where it is today, when nobody knows. And they care about the displaced people. That's how this has been turned around. Anyway, I'm going to miss my plane. No, you're not, I'm driving, you're driving, I'm driving. No, you're not, I'm driving, you're driving.

Speaker 1: 1:08:25

So a year and a half ago I went to the Israeli media summit, christian media summit. They took us down to the city of David and the excavations and soon opened the pilgrimage road from the Pool of Siloam all the way up to the Temple Mount. But they told us a story about beneath the walkway is a sewer. In 70 AD, when the Romans were coming against Jerusalem, the last group of Jewish people that survived were found in that sewer, right under our feet. Others had fled to Masada, and we know what happened to Masada in 73 AD, right under our feet. Others had fled to Masada, and we know what happened to Masada in 73 AD, three years later. But right near them they found a coin Minted by the rebels.

Speaker 1: 1:09:18

And what did the coin say? For the hope of Zion? That hope the coin say for the hope of Zion. That hope brought them back and I believe you're an all-fruited Bob person Jesus will return in response to their plea. That's Hosea, chapter 5 and 6. We're living at that time. So we got to go, olivier, thanks so much. Thank you, we'll have you back, god bless.

Speaker 2: 1:09:53

Remember to sign up on Shalom and Messiah. We need your prayers, we need your support and we need to stay connected with you If you're interested in the network. Lord, thank you for this opportunity again To look at what's going on in the world. We look at this, we get angry, we get upset, we get frustrated, but we also know, lord, that none of it surprises you. You know everything that's happening and none of it is beyond your control. We know that you control everything and we know that you're coming back, your son is coming back, and that the end is coming soon.

Speaker 2: 1:10:28

And we know that the end of the story ends well for those who are in the family of God. So, lord, we thank you for including us in your family by giving us this great opportunity, this free gift, to just follow Yeshua the Messiah. And if anybody listening today online are not connected to the family of God, if you're not a believer, a follower of Yeshua Jesus, simply by believing that he is the Son of God, he is the Messiah and you just want to follow Him, you want to accept Him as your Savior, you become a child of God and you are in God's family, and nobody can take that away from you and Lord, we thank you for that free gift. In Yeshua's name we pray Amen, amen. Thank you all.

Speaker 3: 1:11:13

Thank you.